I wasn't expecting a revelation today, and boy was I wrong. The hate is getting to me. I'm having a very hard time viewing anyone who still supports this regime as human. (As evidenced in my daily piece today.) I like to say, "Haha - it's satire," but it's not all haha. I despise these fools and don't like the 'me' they bring forth, if I'm totally honest. I have sweet little dreams of horrible things happening to them and I dig it. I really do. It's not healthy. I'm not promising anything but I will honor the truths here with my own self reflection.
This entire article is feelings and flowery language with zero Scripture, zero evidence, and zero engagement with actual research. Let me address your "arguments":
"Most theologians see it as mythic symbolism"
Which theologians? You don't name one. Meanwhile:
Justin Martyr (2nd Apology, 5) discusses angels literally breeding with women. Tertullian (On the Apparel of Women, 1.2) describes angels who "contaminated" women they took as wives. Irenaeus (Against Heresies, 4.16) references angels who "went after strange flesh." These aren't allegorical readings. These are literal interpretations from Church Fathers.
You claim it's "mythic symbolism" but Genesis 6:4 says "and also AFTER that." After the flood. Then Numbers 13:33 records Nephilim in Canaan, post-flood. 2 Samuel 21:20 describes a giant with six fingers and six toes. Deuteronomy 3:11 gives Og's bed measurements: 13 feet long. Those are physical descriptions, not metaphors.
"19th-century newspaper reports were hoaxes"
You dismiss 1,500+ newspaper articles spanning 1840-1920 as "misidentified animal bones" without examining a single one. The Smithsonian has been directly asked about these skeletons and refuses to produce them. You call that "correction." Others call it evidence removal. You don't address WHY the skeletons disappeared if they were just misidentified.
"Evil does not require supernatural DNA"
Ephesians 6:12: "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."
Paul explicitly states the battle ISN'T just flesh and blood. It's spiritual powers. Examining how those powers might operate through bloodlines doesn't shift responsibility. Both human corruption AND spiritual warfare can exist simultaneously.
"The real mark of the beast is belief that empathy is optional"
Revelation 13:16-17 describes a literal mark on the right hand or forehead required for buying and selling. You're redefining biblical prophecy as a metaphor for "lack of empathy" because the actual text doesn't fit your worldview.
Your Entire Strategy:
You wrote an entire article about Nephilim theory without:
Citing a single Bible verse
Addressing genealogical records in Burke's Peerage
Explaining RH-negative blood incompatibility with human pregnancy
Explaining 1,000-ton stones at Baalbek
Explaining Göbekli Tepe built 11,500 years ago
Addressing Dr. Michael Heiser's PhD research
Addressing Gary Wayne's 600+ page work with 1,200 footnotes
Responding to ANY specific archaeological or genetic evidence
Instead you wrote vague spiritual platitudes about "empathy" and "laughing at ourselves." That's not rebuttal. That's dismissal without engagement.
You claim to be a "living saint" but won't answer if you practice witchcraft. You cherry-pick which Scripture is "real" based on your personal authority. You write an article attacking biblical research without using any biblical citations. And you position yourself as spiritually superior while calling others fearful and delusional.
Proverbs 26:4-5: "Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself. Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own eyes."
You've written poetry about empathy. Others have cited Genesis, Revelation, genealogical records, and archaeological evidence. Readers will notice the difference.
Truth doesn't need flowery language. It just needs facts. Try using some.
Wolf, you’ve brought up a list of verses, patristic quotes, and unsolved mysteries to argue that the Nephilim bloodline literally continues. The problem isn’t that I cited nothing; it’s that your citations don’t prove what you think they do.
1. Church Fathers:
Yes, Justin Martyr, Tertullian, and Irenaeus took the “sons of God” literally. They were reading through the lens of Second Temple mythology, before astronomy or genetics existed. Their goal was moral explanation, not biological record keeping. Later Fathers like Origen, Augustine, and Chrysostom explicitly rejected the physical breeding view. The symbolic reading isn’t new. It’s the mainstream line that became Orthodoxy.
2. “After that” in Genesis 6:4:
The text says Nephilim existed before and after, but it doesn’t say the same bloodline survived the Flood. The language marks continuity of violence and corruption, not DNA. Numbers and Samuel use “Nephilim” as a descriptive label, the way we might call someone a titan.
3. Giants, bones, and the Smithsonian:
Every physical claim of giant skeletons has collapsed under scrutiny. Newspaper hoaxes were rampant in the 19th century, and no verifiable specimen has ever surfaced in a peer reviewed context. The Smithsonian doesn’t hide bones; it catalogs what it receives. Extraordinary claims still need extraordinary evidence, not missing boxes.
4. Baalbek, Göbekli Tepe, RH negative blood:
Archaeologists explain those sites by engineering and social organization, not hybrid beings. RH negative blood is a simple mutation common in isolated populations. None of these prove angelic DNA.
5. Scripture about powers and marks:
Ephesians 6:12 describes spiritual struggle, not mixed genetics. Revelation’s mark functions as apocalyptic symbolism for allegiance and economy, consistent with other visions in the same text. Literalizing apocalyptic imagery has been a reliable way to miss its point since the first century.
And that bit about witchcraft and sainthood? That’s where your argument leaves theology and drifts into tabloid territory. Virgin Monk Boy being called a “patron saint” is satire, not self-beatification. The whole point is to lampoon the spiritual grandstanding that confuses theater for holiness. If you can’t tell the difference, it says more about your reading comprehension than my religion.
So yes, I write about empathy because it’s the theological heart of the matter. Evil that forgets empathy becomes monstrous. That’s the lesson Genesis was teaching long before the word Nephilim became clickbait.
Blessed be the ones who study both the text and the context. They’re the only ones who ever find more than fear hiding in scripture.
First, the ChatGPT formatting is showing. Numbered bullet points, "the problem isn't X, it's Y" opening, condescending "blessed be" closing. If you're going to use AI to write your responses, at least edit it so it's not obvious.
Church Fathers:
You admit Justin, Tertullian, and Irenaeus took it literally, then dismiss them as "before astronomy or genetics existed" as if scientific advancement invalidates eyewitness theology. These men were closer to the apostolic tradition than Augustine by centuries. You're choosing later theological interpretation over earlier sources, then claiming YOUR choice is "mainstream Orthodoxy." That's selective tradition, not objective truth.
And you still haven't cited a single Scripture verse to counter Genesis 6:4, Numbers 13:33, Deuteronomy 3:11, or 2 Samuel 21:20. You just assert "the language marks continuity of violence, not DNA." Based on what? Your interpretation? Where's the textual analysis? Where's the Hebrew scholarship?
"After that" in Genesis 6:4:
"The text says Nephilim existed before and after, but doesn't say the same bloodline survived."
It says "and also AFTER that, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men." That's present tense breeding activity described as continuing post-flood. Then Numbers 13:33 identifies specific giants as Nephilim descendants. You're claiming it's just "descriptive label" without linguistic evidence.
Giant skeletons:
"Every physical claim has collapsed under scrutiny."
Cite which ones. Name the newspapers. Show the debunking. You're making blanket dismissals without addressing specific claims. There are 1,500+ newspaper articles. You've examined zero and declared all hoaxes.
Baalbek, Göbekli Tepe, RH-negative:
"Archaeologists explain those sites by engineering and social organization."
Which archaeologists? What engineering methods could move 1,000-ton stones in prehistory? You're citing unnamed authorities making unexplained claims. And RH-negative causing mothers' immune systems to attack their own babies is "simple mutation"? It's a biological incompatibility within the human species. That's not simple. That's anomalous.
Ephesians 6:12:
"Describes spiritual struggle, not mixed genetics."
The verse says we DON'T wrestle against flesh and blood, but against POWERS and RULERS. Examining how those powers operate through bloodlines isn't negating spiritual warfare. It's examining one mechanism of it. You're creating a false dichotomy.
Witchcraft question:
You dodged it again. "Virgin Monk Boy is satire" doesn't answer whether you practice witchcraft. You claim to be Christian but cherry-pick Scripture, reject Church Father interpretations when inconvenient, and won't directly answer a yes/no question.
"Study both text and context":
You've provided zero textual analysis. Zero Hebrew or Greek scholarship. Zero engagement with specific archaeological claims. Zero Scripture citations. Just vague appeals to "mainstream theology" and unnamed "archaeologists" while dismissing documented evidence as "clickbait."
You write about empathy as if it replaces investigation. As if being kind means not examining genealogical records, archaeological anomalies, or scriptural warnings. That's not theology. That's emotional deflection.
And using ChatGPT to write your responses while lecturing others about "reading comprehension"? That's rich.
Try actually engaging with the evidence instead of generating numbered rebuttals that say nothing.
You keep yelling about evidence, but everything you’re calling “evidence” is just repetition inside your own circle. Let’s go through what you actually said, slowly, like we’re lighting candles in a room that smells like gasoline.
First. “You’re using AI.” Cute. You’re the one pasting 6,000-word fear sermons about secret bloodlines, shape-shifters, and sleeper hybrids running the White House. Then you accuse me of being too polished.
Yet I run your sermon through AI detectors and it fails while mine passes. Now that’s rich, almost as rich as your witchcraft accusations. You can’t tell the difference between spiritual discernment and digital paranoia. Maybe the next revelation will come when you finally clear your browser history of conspiracy clickbait.
You haven't addressed a single thing. Not one piece of actual evidence. Just condescending garbage about me accusing you of being 'too polished'. Ha! I read a few of your articles. You are just saying 'Hey ChatGPT write me some obnoxious, feel good drivel for idiots'. That isn't polish. That is intellectual laziness.
You say you ran stuff through AI detectors? Great. Link it. Show the results. Or did you just make that up to sound credible? We both know the answer to that question.
And here's the big one: Do you practice witchcraft? Yes or no?
That's FOUR times you've been asked. Four times you've dodged. A guy who calls himself a "living saint" on Twitter should have zero problem answering that. One word. Yes or no. But you won't say it. Why? Because the answer is yes and you know exactly how that looks.
You mock research into fallen angels and Nephilim bloodlines as "paranoia" while positioning yourself as some spiritual authority. You ignore Scripture. You twist Church Fathers. You write flowery nonsense about empathy instead of engaging with genealogical records, archaeological evidence, or biblical text.
What are you protecting? Who are you running interference for?
You started with scripture and ended with threats. That isn’t conviction, that’s collapse.
And this witchcraft fixation of yours? It’s giving more 1692 than 2025. No, I don’t practice it. You just want an easy villain so you don’t have to face the real issue staring back at you.
You keep chanting “evidence,” but what you call proof is a hall of mirrors—YouTube prophets, recycled hoaxes, and fear dressed up as theology. That isn’t discernment. It’s dependency on delusion.
So I’ll turn your own question around. What are you protecting, Wolf? Who are you running interference for?
At this point, I am done engaging with some generic ChatGPT nutcase who refuses to answer if he practices witchcraft and instead deflects the question every time.
A wise man once said, 'There is no point in arguing with stupid people because they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.'
These nephilim can be translated as giants or "fallen ones."
Simcha Jacobovici aka "The Naked Archeologist" suggests that the nephilim are a memory of something very different and very real. Northern Israel was a place were both ancient homosapiens and ancient Neanderthals met up and lived together. There's a cave, I would need to look it up, where there's clear archeological evidence of this.
We know that we, homosapiens, have Neanderthal DNA. Maybe this is better than angels.
Our piece looks at how that ancient memory keeps getting twisted into something darker, like the claim that the Nephilim bloodline still exists and secretly runs the world. What started as anthropology turns into theology by way of conspiracy.
👹Halloween monsters!…be afraid…be very afraid…👻 Yes, Fear usually stomps on Empathy because it’s so focused on its own immediate survival, also making it such a useful idiot for Greed & Power. 🎃
I heard of this in the 90s. Had to read some to remember what it was. It does seem to be popping up everywhere.
Truth and responsibility are in short supply right now. It is so easy to try for excuses or to blame others. But in the end that just delays solving the issue.
Oh, wow. I hadn't heard about this! It sounds like a great premise for a scary story, as long as people keep it straight that it's just a story. Yes, we're always looking for others to blame. It's sad.
Hey Virgin Monk Boy, I read you article, The Ancient Conspiracy That Refuses to Die. You call Nephilim tales recycled fear porn, but I see them as living truth. The Watchers and their Nephilim Spirit offspring still operate today. They are the Hidden Hand steering the world from behind the shadows keeping humans from reaching their full potential. Hear me out!
I have many article along these lines but here I'll focus on Enoch's Visions. I study Enoch manuscripts deeply. In my latest piece, Enoch and the Watchers: From Nephilim Chaos to Shared Abrahamic Hope, I back this with hard evidence. Mladen Popović’s June PLOS ONE study used the “Enoch” AI on 24 radiocarbon samples to date fragments to the 4th century BCE. That’s Persian era, pre-Hellenistic, and fully Jewish. Cave 4 alone gave us eleven Aramaic copies, 4Q201 to 4Q212, covering the Book of Watchers, Astronomical Book, Dreams, and Epistle. This shows the importance these manuscripts are from the second temple period. Unfortunately, DSS progress stalled for decades when Józef Milik called the Parables 3rd-century Christian because of New Testament echoes. John J. Collins and George W.E. Nickelsburg corrected that in the 1980s and 1990s. I write how the Essenes sealed the scrolls in 68 CE as a covenantal act of defiance against Rome. I also explain how rabbis at Yavneh quietly sidelined apocalyptic texts after the Temple fell, not for heresy but for survival. I also connect the Watchers’ forbidden tech to today’s AI risks without ethics.
On a wilder note, in my other Substack writings I write that I believe the Watchers themselves still exist, hidden in Antarctica, perhaps originally as a desert pit from a pre-pole-shift epoch. What I refer to as The Hidden Hand guiding our earth and keeping humans from their full potential. Consider Buzz Aldrin’s eerie 2016 tweet warning of “evil itself” right before his medical evacuation from the South Pole, plus visits by elites like John Kerry and Prince Harry. Very few humans are allowed to actually visit there, not the expeditions as tourist that stay far off the Antarctic continent. Then there’s New Swabia, the Nazi expedition claiming Antarctic territory in 1938-39, tied to the Thule Society’s occult hunts, and then there is Operation Highjump in 1946-47, where Admiral Byrd’s massive U.S. fleet faced mysterious losses. Byrd’s post-expedition newspaper quote about polar invasions by hostile aircraft going from pole to pole in seconds only fuels the fire. His boss Admiral Forrestal supposedly jumped from his Bethesda window. Declassified records later called it "necessary." A lot of mystery!
As for the Nephilim offspring, I believe their spirits still linger. I believe they are also part of The Hidden Hand pulling strings on earth today. You see them in Edgar Cayce’s readings on deceptive trickster entities, Aleister Crowley’s rituals summoning otherworldly forces, and the Thule Society’s Nazi-era obsessions with ancient watchers.
Eric, the Dead Sea Scrolls show that Enoch was an important text in Jewish thought before the Common Era. The fragments from Cave 4, labeled 4Q201 through 4Q212, include multiple sections of 1 Enoch circulating among apocalyptic communities. That proves the text is ancient but not necessarily historical. The Parables of Enoch, which deal with the Son of Man figure, weren’t found at Qumran. Later scholars like Collins and Nickelsburg placed them earlier than Milik thought, but there’s still no evidence the Essenes had that section.
The people at Qumran probably hid their scrolls during the Roman invasion around 68 CE. That was about preservation, not conspiracy. After the temple fell, the rabbis at Yavneh avoided apocalyptic writings because they were trying to rebuild a traumatized community under Roman rule. It wasn’t censorship of hidden wisdom; it was a strategy for survival.
The story of the Watchers warning against forbidden knowledge isn’t about lost technology. It’s a moral warning about pride and power, about using what we know to exploit rather than heal. That remains relevant to modern technology and AI ethics, but it isn’t evidence of angelic engineers or ancient machines.
The Antarctica stories collapse under scrutiny. The Buzz Aldrin tweet was fake. He was evacuated for altitude sickness. John Kerry went there for climate research, and Prince Harry’s trip was part of a veterans’ expedition. None of it connects to Watchers beneath the ice. The Nazi New Swabia mission was a mapping project. Operation Highjump had accidents, not battles with mystery craft. The quote attributed to Admiral Byrd about craft flying from pole to pole came from a sensational newspaper article, not his logs. Forrestal’s death was a mental health tragedy, not an assassination.
Crowley and Cayce were mystics exploring altered states and symbolism. They weren’t documenting literal encounters with surviving Nephilim. Their work belongs to psychology, not archaeology.
The only hidden hand shaping the world is human greed and corruption. That’s what drives secrecy, war, and exploitation. The Book of Enoch still matters because it dares to name those forces and call for justice. That’s the real message buried under all the myth, and it doesn’t need Antarctica or demons to make it powerful.
Thank you for your thoughtful reply. It is clear you have engaged deeply with these texts, and I respect the rigor you bring to separating moral archetype from speculative history. However, with all due respect, I believe a closer look at the primary sources and declassified materials reveals layers of nuance that challenge some of the mainstream dismissals you have cited.
I have studied these topics for the good part of two decades (I have dealt with illness and knowledge has become my friend and passion, as a tool to keep my brain from atrophy), and, often find the truth somewhere in between the mainstream narrative and the conspiracy theory rant. Just enough disinformation to cast doubt and deflect truth seekers like us off track believing the mainstream narrative. Far too often, as with Roswell or other paradigm-shifting events, initial truths get layered over by institutional narratives designed for containment rather than revelation.
I will address your points systematically, drawing on peer-reviewed scholarship, archival evidence, and overlooked testimonies to illustrate why Enoch's visions and their echoes in modern anomalies warrant a more expansive lens. My aim here is not to dismiss your perspective but to invite a shared excavation of the evidence, as fellow stewards of these ancient warnings.
On the Dead Sea Scrolls and Enoch's antiquity: You are absolutely right that the Cave 4 fragments (4Q201 to 4Q212) confirm 1 Enoch's centrality in pre-Common Era Jewish apocalyptic circles, with eleven Aramaic manuscripts attesting to sections like the Book of Watchers, Astronomical Book, Book of Dreams, and Epistle. This multiplicity, outnumbering copies of most non-biblical texts at Qumran, speaks to its revered status among the Essenes, not mere peripheral use. Where we diverge is on the Parables (chs. 37 to 71) and the "Son of Man" figure: While no direct fragments survive from Qumran, their absence does not preclude an early date or Essene familiarity. Józef Milik's 1976 dating to the 3rd century CE was indeed overturned by John J. Collins and George W.E. Nickelsburg in the 1980s to 1990s, who, through linguistic parallels with Qumran Aramaic and thematic ties to the Community Rule (1QS), argued for a 1st-century BCE composition, contemporary with the site's occupation. The Parables' messianic elect ("one like a son of man") aligns too closely with Daniel 7's interpretation in the scrolls (e.g., 4Q246) to be coincidental; its exclusion from the corpus may reflect selective preservation amid persecution, not doctrinal rejection. This is not "proof" of historicity, but it bolsters Enoch as a living theological engine, influencing not just Jude (1:14 to 15) but the Essene expectation of a heavenly advocate, echoing the very "hidden wisdom" you mention.
Regarding the hiding in 68 CE: Preservation as "covenantal defiance" aligns precisely with your point. Archaeological evidence from Qumran's pottery and coin hoards dates the seals to the First Jewish-Roman War's climax, when Vespasian's legions razed the site. But this was not mere archiving; texts like the War Scroll (1QM) frame it as eschatological resistance, scrolls as "swords" against imperial erasure. Yavneh's rabbinic pivot post-70 CE was indeed survivalist, prioritizing halakhah over apocalypse to rebuild under Flavian oversight, but this pragmatic "sidelining" (as you aptly term it) masked a deeper suppression. Midrashic echoes of Enoch in later Talmud (e.g., b. Hag. 13a on Metatron as "lesser YHWH") suggest selective retention, not wholesale rejection; the texts' "risky" visions fueled Bar Kokhba's revolt (132 to 135 CE), proving their latent power. Collins himself notes in Enoch: A New Translation (2007) that this was less "strategy" than enforced amnesia, with Enoch's survival in Ethiopian Ge'ez traditions hinting at diaspora networks evading Roman censors.
The Watchers as moral warning: Here we converge beautifully. Their "forbidden knowledge" (1 Enoch 8: metallurgy, astrology, sorcery) indicts prideful exploitation, a timeless caution against tech divorced from ethics. Yet dismissing it as "not lost technology" overlooks the texts' etiological intent: These gifts birthed the Nephilim's chaos, implying pre-flood artifacts of angelic origin. Qumran's Astronomical Book (4Q208 to 211) details celestial mechanics unknown to Iron Age scribes, paralleling Babylonian influences but with a revelatory twist, Enoch as conduit for "stolen fire." Modern AI ethics? Absolutely resonant, but as Popović's 2025 PLOS ONE AI analysis of 24 radiocarbon-dated fragments confirms (pushing core sections to 4th-century BCE Persian roots), this is not allegory alone; it is a blueprint for discerning "angelic" innovations from human hubris.
Now, to Antarctica (one of my favorite topics) and the "collapse under scrutiny", this is where deeper archival dives reveal the mainstream's selective lens.
The Buzz Aldrin tweet ("We are all in danger. It is evil itself") was indeed circulated as a screenshot in 2016. It originated from the now-defunct Superstation95 (a known disinformation site blending real events with fabrications). The, Snopes/AAP (a mainstream narrative site) debunked it for lacking metadata or engagement traces. Aldrin's evacuation was supposedly for altitude sickness, not a "heart attack," per NSF records. Fair point, sure. However, the tweet's virality masks broader patterns.
Kerry's 2016 McMurdo visit, billed as "climate diplomacy," coincided with NSF briefings on subglacial anomalies (e.g., Lake Vostok's microbial isolates, declassified in 2017 as extremophile 'analogs' (speculatively called 'non-terrestrial' in some reports)), and his abrupt pivot to "geopolitical threats" in post-trip remarks (NYT, Nov. 16, 2016) echoes Cold War polar secrecy.
Prince Harry's 2013 trek? Officially Walking with the Wounded, but logs from Novolazarevskaya Station (near New Swabia) note "restricted overflights" during his acclimation, coinciding with a Norwegian-British seismic survey detecting subglacial channels (sometimes called 'caverns' in reports). I've written many Substack articles regard Antarctica's anomalies. See https://sleuthfox.substack.com/p/antarcticas-forbidden-secrets-a-radio
On to New Swabia (1938 to 39): Mainstream histories call it "mapping for whaling," but Ritscher's expedition logs (Bundesarchiv, R 58/278) reference Ahnenerbe occultists aboard, tied to Thule Society's Hyperborean quests, seeking "Aryan progenitors" in ice-core samples laced with anomalous isotopes (later confirmed in 1990s glaciology reports). Thule's rune-magic (inspired by Guido von List) explicitly invoked "Watchers" as northern exile gods, per Pauwels/Bergier's The Morning of the Magicians (1960, citing seized SS files).
Operation Highjump was originally planned to last 6 to 8 months, with some sources indicating an intent to establish a semi-permanent base that could extend operations into a second season. However, It was terminated 2 to 3 months earlier than planned.
Accidents claimed four and ships were damaged. Declassified Navy reports (NARA, RG 125) log 12 "unidentified aerial contacts" over the Weddell Sea, with PBM Mariner losses attributed to "hostile intercepts" in Byrd's after-action memo, redacted until 2003 FOIA release. Byrd's "pole-to-pole" quote? From his March 5, 1947, El Mercurio interview (via INS correspondent Lee van Atta), warning of "planes over the poles" as strategic vulnerabilities were framed in context as post-war Soviet threats, but his private diary (Byrd Polar Center, OSU) muses on "inner realm guardians," aligning with pre-expedition Thule briefings.
Forrestal's 1949 death: Bethesda coroner's ruled suicide amid "paranoid episodes," but 1975 declassified NSC-68 annexes (via Congressional Church Committee) note his "removal" amid leak suspicions, echoed in his final memo on "polar anomalies" (NARA, RG 330).
These are not "sensational articles"; they are breadcrumbs in redacted files, pointing to a pre-pole-shift desert (as per Graham Hancock's Magicians of the Gods, tying Göbekli Tepe alignments to Antarctic tectonics). Also, see the Chan Thomas partially Declassified CIA Story: https://sleuthfox.substack.com/p/cias-hidden-warning-is-earths-next
Finally, Crowley, Cayce, and Thule: Reducing them to "altered states" overlooks their documented "contacts." Cayce's readings (e.g., 3976-15, 1940) describe "trickster entities" as Nephilim remnants, deceptive "earthbound souls" manipulating seekers, per A.R.E. transcripts linking them to Genesis 6 "sons of God." Crowley's Aiwass (Thelema's "holy guardian angel," dictating Liber AL in 1904) invoked Enochian Watchers via Dee's scrying, his Cairo working explicitly channeled "pre-Adamic" intelligences, per Magick Without Tears (1954). Thule's Ahnenerbe wing (1935 to 45) archived "Nephilim" as Aryan progenitors, funding New Swabia digs for "Watcher relics" (per SS-Ahnenerbe files, captured in Operation Paperclip). Psychology explains the method; archaeology demands we probe the phenomena. These mystics consistently surface as The Hidden Hand: non-corporeal influencers exacerbating human greed, just as Enoch 15:8–12 warns of disembodied giants “afflicting mankind.”
Enoch exposes greed’s shadows and calls for justice amid exploitation. Yet the deeper message endures because it names the forces at work: not only human weakness, but the fallen Watchers along with the disembodied Nephilim and their ongoing sabotage of human development and God's plan for this earth.
Your survival-strategy lens is strong young monk, but truth often lies hidden somewhere in between the lines in purposeful deception. We must always look past the mainstream narrative to find it.
Eric, I do not deny that unseen intelligences may exist. Every sacred tradition describes them in one form or another. What I question is the usefulness of speculating about them. The mystics and contemplatives I follow, from Jesus and the Desert Fathers to the Hesychasts, all warned against fascination with the psychic middle world.
Crowley and Cayce reached outward and got entangled. The saints and contemplatives turned inward and found freedom. Prayer in the heart is the firewall. It does not debate powers and principalities; it blesses them back into silence.
As for the idea of a divine plan for this earth, I see it differently. The mystic does not picture God as a strategist moving pieces across a board. The divine is the ground of being itself, present in every breath and every act of awareness. Enoch’s call for justice was not a prophecy of cosmic management but a reminder of what happens when consciousness forgets its source.
The work is not to decode a plan but to participate in love. Creation is still happening. Every act of compassion is a small correction to the imbalance. We are not waiting for a plan to unfold; we are the unfolding itself.
The truth is that heaven and earth will pass away. Then what remains? Only awareness without fear, love without opposite, and the silence that was here before the story began.
The only conspiracy that truly binds humanity is fear. When you pray for those caught in it, including the ones you believe hold power, you dissolve their hold over you.
Well said! I couldn't agree more. Your words beautifully echo the developmental essence of divinity as an unfolding process, where we participate not as pawns in a cosmic strategy but as co-creators in the emergent web of relationships and awareness. Turning inward aligns with this natural evolution, fostering compassion that corrects imbalances through interconnected acts, dissolving fear's hold in the silence of being itself, for in this holistic emergence, where science and spirit converge in self-organizing complexity, we find our true role as conscious participants in the cosmos's ever-deepening meaning. Thank you for the meaningful engagement!
“Evil does not require supernatural DNA. It thrives on ordinary ambition, greed, and fear. We do not need fallen angels to explain Wall Street, data mining, or political manipulation. Humanity has managed those sins perfectly well on its own.
Blaming ancient hybrids is easier than confronting our own systems of power. It shifts responsibility from human corruption to cosmic corruption and turns repentance into gossip.
… The real mark of the beast is not a microchip or a gene edit. It is the belief that empathy is optional.”
I couldn’t agree more. The only thing I might suggest is that empathy be reframed as more than “optional” but treated, like all other resources, as “scarce in supply, needing to be denied to some in order to be available for some future ‘truly deserving’.”
Ideology of scarcity is at the very center of the systems of power that govern this world, against which many ancients (including and especially those in Yahwism) dedicated their entire cultural apparatus to resist.
Two kinds of religions in the world. First is Exclusive religions. Where god is other. Outside of earth. Yes some are with God or chosen and others outside god, unchosen.
Second is Inclusive. Like Buddhism, experientially based acceptance or inclusive of experience. Where all is god not just this or that.
We don’t know much. But what can be surmised is we are very low on the totem pole of life though, we are designed for something, likely something a great deal more complex than the above two options.
That’s a clean frame, Jake. Most people spend lifetimes bouncing between those two poles, either begging the sky or dissolving into it. Maybe the real design isn’t exclusive or inclusive but recursive. God dreaming itself through whatever still remembers to look back.
I wasn't expecting a revelation today, and boy was I wrong. The hate is getting to me. I'm having a very hard time viewing anyone who still supports this regime as human. (As evidenced in my daily piece today.) I like to say, "Haha - it's satire," but it's not all haha. I despise these fools and don't like the 'me' they bring forth, if I'm totally honest. I have sweet little dreams of horrible things happening to them and I dig it. I really do. It's not healthy. I'm not promising anything but I will honor the truths here with my own self reflection.
The article that inspired this topic has a picture of the Bidens where Joe is much larger than his wife, claiming him to be a Giant.
Obviously a camera action that wasn't meant to be proof of anything.
Obviously a camera action and wasn't meant to be proof of anything.
Same here. Recently I've been contemplating about what Nitchze said about monster hunting and staring into the abyss. Deep Peace to you.
Oooh. I need to revisit that. Thank you. Back to you. ❤️
This entire article is feelings and flowery language with zero Scripture, zero evidence, and zero engagement with actual research. Let me address your "arguments":
"Most theologians see it as mythic symbolism"
Which theologians? You don't name one. Meanwhile:
Justin Martyr (2nd Apology, 5) discusses angels literally breeding with women. Tertullian (On the Apparel of Women, 1.2) describes angels who "contaminated" women they took as wives. Irenaeus (Against Heresies, 4.16) references angels who "went after strange flesh." These aren't allegorical readings. These are literal interpretations from Church Fathers.
You claim it's "mythic symbolism" but Genesis 6:4 says "and also AFTER that." After the flood. Then Numbers 13:33 records Nephilim in Canaan, post-flood. 2 Samuel 21:20 describes a giant with six fingers and six toes. Deuteronomy 3:11 gives Og's bed measurements: 13 feet long. Those are physical descriptions, not metaphors.
"19th-century newspaper reports were hoaxes"
You dismiss 1,500+ newspaper articles spanning 1840-1920 as "misidentified animal bones" without examining a single one. The Smithsonian has been directly asked about these skeletons and refuses to produce them. You call that "correction." Others call it evidence removal. You don't address WHY the skeletons disappeared if they were just misidentified.
"Evil does not require supernatural DNA"
Ephesians 6:12: "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."
Paul explicitly states the battle ISN'T just flesh and blood. It's spiritual powers. Examining how those powers might operate through bloodlines doesn't shift responsibility. Both human corruption AND spiritual warfare can exist simultaneously.
"The real mark of the beast is belief that empathy is optional"
Revelation 13:16-17 describes a literal mark on the right hand or forehead required for buying and selling. You're redefining biblical prophecy as a metaphor for "lack of empathy" because the actual text doesn't fit your worldview.
Your Entire Strategy:
You wrote an entire article about Nephilim theory without:
Citing a single Bible verse
Addressing genealogical records in Burke's Peerage
Explaining RH-negative blood incompatibility with human pregnancy
Explaining 1,000-ton stones at Baalbek
Explaining Göbekli Tepe built 11,500 years ago
Addressing Dr. Michael Heiser's PhD research
Addressing Gary Wayne's 600+ page work with 1,200 footnotes
Responding to ANY specific archaeological or genetic evidence
Instead you wrote vague spiritual platitudes about "empathy" and "laughing at ourselves." That's not rebuttal. That's dismissal without engagement.
You claim to be a "living saint" but won't answer if you practice witchcraft. You cherry-pick which Scripture is "real" based on your personal authority. You write an article attacking biblical research without using any biblical citations. And you position yourself as spiritually superior while calling others fearful and delusional.
Proverbs 26:4-5: "Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself. Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own eyes."
You've written poetry about empathy. Others have cited Genesis, Revelation, genealogical records, and archaeological evidence. Readers will notice the difference.
Truth doesn't need flowery language. It just needs facts. Try using some.
Wolf, you’ve brought up a list of verses, patristic quotes, and unsolved mysteries to argue that the Nephilim bloodline literally continues. The problem isn’t that I cited nothing; it’s that your citations don’t prove what you think they do.
1. Church Fathers:
Yes, Justin Martyr, Tertullian, and Irenaeus took the “sons of God” literally. They were reading through the lens of Second Temple mythology, before astronomy or genetics existed. Their goal was moral explanation, not biological record keeping. Later Fathers like Origen, Augustine, and Chrysostom explicitly rejected the physical breeding view. The symbolic reading isn’t new. It’s the mainstream line that became Orthodoxy.
2. “After that” in Genesis 6:4:
The text says Nephilim existed before and after, but it doesn’t say the same bloodline survived the Flood. The language marks continuity of violence and corruption, not DNA. Numbers and Samuel use “Nephilim” as a descriptive label, the way we might call someone a titan.
3. Giants, bones, and the Smithsonian:
Every physical claim of giant skeletons has collapsed under scrutiny. Newspaper hoaxes were rampant in the 19th century, and no verifiable specimen has ever surfaced in a peer reviewed context. The Smithsonian doesn’t hide bones; it catalogs what it receives. Extraordinary claims still need extraordinary evidence, not missing boxes.
4. Baalbek, Göbekli Tepe, RH negative blood:
Archaeologists explain those sites by engineering and social organization, not hybrid beings. RH negative blood is a simple mutation common in isolated populations. None of these prove angelic DNA.
5. Scripture about powers and marks:
Ephesians 6:12 describes spiritual struggle, not mixed genetics. Revelation’s mark functions as apocalyptic symbolism for allegiance and economy, consistent with other visions in the same text. Literalizing apocalyptic imagery has been a reliable way to miss its point since the first century.
And that bit about witchcraft and sainthood? That’s where your argument leaves theology and drifts into tabloid territory. Virgin Monk Boy being called a “patron saint” is satire, not self-beatification. The whole point is to lampoon the spiritual grandstanding that confuses theater for holiness. If you can’t tell the difference, it says more about your reading comprehension than my religion.
So yes, I write about empathy because it’s the theological heart of the matter. Evil that forgets empathy becomes monstrous. That’s the lesson Genesis was teaching long before the word Nephilim became clickbait.
Blessed be the ones who study both the text and the context. They’re the only ones who ever find more than fear hiding in scripture.
First, the ChatGPT formatting is showing. Numbered bullet points, "the problem isn't X, it's Y" opening, condescending "blessed be" closing. If you're going to use AI to write your responses, at least edit it so it's not obvious.
Church Fathers:
You admit Justin, Tertullian, and Irenaeus took it literally, then dismiss them as "before astronomy or genetics existed" as if scientific advancement invalidates eyewitness theology. These men were closer to the apostolic tradition than Augustine by centuries. You're choosing later theological interpretation over earlier sources, then claiming YOUR choice is "mainstream Orthodoxy." That's selective tradition, not objective truth.
And you still haven't cited a single Scripture verse to counter Genesis 6:4, Numbers 13:33, Deuteronomy 3:11, or 2 Samuel 21:20. You just assert "the language marks continuity of violence, not DNA." Based on what? Your interpretation? Where's the textual analysis? Where's the Hebrew scholarship?
"After that" in Genesis 6:4:
"The text says Nephilim existed before and after, but doesn't say the same bloodline survived."
It says "and also AFTER that, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men." That's present tense breeding activity described as continuing post-flood. Then Numbers 13:33 identifies specific giants as Nephilim descendants. You're claiming it's just "descriptive label" without linguistic evidence.
Giant skeletons:
"Every physical claim has collapsed under scrutiny."
Cite which ones. Name the newspapers. Show the debunking. You're making blanket dismissals without addressing specific claims. There are 1,500+ newspaper articles. You've examined zero and declared all hoaxes.
Baalbek, Göbekli Tepe, RH-negative:
"Archaeologists explain those sites by engineering and social organization."
Which archaeologists? What engineering methods could move 1,000-ton stones in prehistory? You're citing unnamed authorities making unexplained claims. And RH-negative causing mothers' immune systems to attack their own babies is "simple mutation"? It's a biological incompatibility within the human species. That's not simple. That's anomalous.
Ephesians 6:12:
"Describes spiritual struggle, not mixed genetics."
The verse says we DON'T wrestle against flesh and blood, but against POWERS and RULERS. Examining how those powers operate through bloodlines isn't negating spiritual warfare. It's examining one mechanism of it. You're creating a false dichotomy.
Witchcraft question:
You dodged it again. "Virgin Monk Boy is satire" doesn't answer whether you practice witchcraft. You claim to be Christian but cherry-pick Scripture, reject Church Father interpretations when inconvenient, and won't directly answer a yes/no question.
"Study both text and context":
You've provided zero textual analysis. Zero Hebrew or Greek scholarship. Zero engagement with specific archaeological claims. Zero Scripture citations. Just vague appeals to "mainstream theology" and unnamed "archaeologists" while dismissing documented evidence as "clickbait."
You write about empathy as if it replaces investigation. As if being kind means not examining genealogical records, archaeological anomalies, or scriptural warnings. That's not theology. That's emotional deflection.
And using ChatGPT to write your responses while lecturing others about "reading comprehension"? That's rich.
Try actually engaging with the evidence instead of generating numbered rebuttals that say nothing.
Wolf. Sit.
You keep yelling about evidence, but everything you’re calling “evidence” is just repetition inside your own circle. Let’s go through what you actually said, slowly, like we’re lighting candles in a room that smells like gasoline.
First. “You’re using AI.” Cute. You’re the one pasting 6,000-word fear sermons about secret bloodlines, shape-shifters, and sleeper hybrids running the White House. Then you accuse me of being too polished.
Yet I run your sermon through AI detectors and it fails while mine passes. Now that’s rich, almost as rich as your witchcraft accusations. You can’t tell the difference between spiritual discernment and digital paranoia. Maybe the next revelation will come when you finally clear your browser history of conspiracy clickbait.
Dogs sit. Wolves rip your fucking throat out.
You haven't addressed a single thing. Not one piece of actual evidence. Just condescending garbage about me accusing you of being 'too polished'. Ha! I read a few of your articles. You are just saying 'Hey ChatGPT write me some obnoxious, feel good drivel for idiots'. That isn't polish. That is intellectual laziness.
You say you ran stuff through AI detectors? Great. Link it. Show the results. Or did you just make that up to sound credible? We both know the answer to that question.
And here's the big one: Do you practice witchcraft? Yes or no?
That's FOUR times you've been asked. Four times you've dodged. A guy who calls himself a "living saint" on Twitter should have zero problem answering that. One word. Yes or no. But you won't say it. Why? Because the answer is yes and you know exactly how that looks.
You mock research into fallen angels and Nephilim bloodlines as "paranoia" while positioning yourself as some spiritual authority. You ignore Scripture. You twist Church Fathers. You write flowery nonsense about empathy instead of engaging with genealogical records, archaeological evidence, or biblical text.
What are you protecting? Who are you running interference for?
Wolf, you’re coming apart.
You started with scripture and ended with threats. That isn’t conviction, that’s collapse.
And this witchcraft fixation of yours? It’s giving more 1692 than 2025. No, I don’t practice it. You just want an easy villain so you don’t have to face the real issue staring back at you.
You keep chanting “evidence,” but what you call proof is a hall of mirrors—YouTube prophets, recycled hoaxes, and fear dressed up as theology. That isn’t discernment. It’s dependency on delusion.
So I’ll turn your own question around. What are you protecting, Wolf? Who are you running interference for?
At this point, I am done engaging with some generic ChatGPT nutcase who refuses to answer if he practices witchcraft and instead deflects the question every time.
A wise man once said, 'There is no point in arguing with stupid people because they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.'
These nephilim can be translated as giants or "fallen ones."
Simcha Jacobovici aka "The Naked Archeologist" suggests that the nephilim are a memory of something very different and very real. Northern Israel was a place were both ancient homosapiens and ancient Neanderthals met up and lived together. There's a cave, I would need to look it up, where there's clear archeological evidence of this.
We know that we, homosapiens, have Neanderthal DNA. Maybe this is better than angels.
Our piece looks at how that ancient memory keeps getting twisted into something darker, like the claim that the Nephilim bloodline still exists and secretly runs the world. What started as anthropology turns into theology by way of conspiracy.
👹Halloween monsters!…be afraid…be very afraid…👻 Yes, Fear usually stomps on Empathy because it’s so focused on its own immediate survival, also making it such a useful idiot for Greed & Power. 🎃
Clarification: Fear makes ITSELF such a useful idiot for Greed & Power.
I heard of this in the 90s. Had to read some to remember what it was. It does seem to be popping up everywhere.
Truth and responsibility are in short supply right now. It is so easy to try for excuses or to blame others. But in the end that just delays solving the issue.
Lol I remember a flat earther arguing that he could be right because other people were talking about it.
Seek the Truth. It's out there if you really want to know.
Oh, wow. I hadn't heard about this! It sounds like a great premise for a scary story, as long as people keep it straight that it's just a story. Yes, we're always looking for others to blame. It's sad.
God is a God of love; not fear. I wholeheartedly agree that this text (like soooo many other Biblical passages) is an ALLEGORY for CHOICES.
God did not create us with free will, only to turn around and control us by fear.
There is only God. And He is perfectly ONLY a God of love; not fear.
Hey Virgin Monk Boy, I read you article, The Ancient Conspiracy That Refuses to Die. You call Nephilim tales recycled fear porn, but I see them as living truth. The Watchers and their Nephilim Spirit offspring still operate today. They are the Hidden Hand steering the world from behind the shadows keeping humans from reaching their full potential. Hear me out!
I have many article along these lines but here I'll focus on Enoch's Visions. I study Enoch manuscripts deeply. In my latest piece, Enoch and the Watchers: From Nephilim Chaos to Shared Abrahamic Hope, I back this with hard evidence. Mladen Popović’s June PLOS ONE study used the “Enoch” AI on 24 radiocarbon samples to date fragments to the 4th century BCE. That’s Persian era, pre-Hellenistic, and fully Jewish. Cave 4 alone gave us eleven Aramaic copies, 4Q201 to 4Q212, covering the Book of Watchers, Astronomical Book, Dreams, and Epistle. This shows the importance these manuscripts are from the second temple period. Unfortunately, DSS progress stalled for decades when Józef Milik called the Parables 3rd-century Christian because of New Testament echoes. John J. Collins and George W.E. Nickelsburg corrected that in the 1980s and 1990s. I write how the Essenes sealed the scrolls in 68 CE as a covenantal act of defiance against Rome. I also explain how rabbis at Yavneh quietly sidelined apocalyptic texts after the Temple fell, not for heresy but for survival. I also connect the Watchers’ forbidden tech to today’s AI risks without ethics.
On a wilder note, in my other Substack writings I write that I believe the Watchers themselves still exist, hidden in Antarctica, perhaps originally as a desert pit from a pre-pole-shift epoch. What I refer to as The Hidden Hand guiding our earth and keeping humans from their full potential. Consider Buzz Aldrin’s eerie 2016 tweet warning of “evil itself” right before his medical evacuation from the South Pole, plus visits by elites like John Kerry and Prince Harry. Very few humans are allowed to actually visit there, not the expeditions as tourist that stay far off the Antarctic continent. Then there’s New Swabia, the Nazi expedition claiming Antarctic territory in 1938-39, tied to the Thule Society’s occult hunts, and then there is Operation Highjump in 1946-47, where Admiral Byrd’s massive U.S. fleet faced mysterious losses. Byrd’s post-expedition newspaper quote about polar invasions by hostile aircraft going from pole to pole in seconds only fuels the fire. His boss Admiral Forrestal supposedly jumped from his Bethesda window. Declassified records later called it "necessary." A lot of mystery!
As for the Nephilim offspring, I believe their spirits still linger. I believe they are also part of The Hidden Hand pulling strings on earth today. You see them in Edgar Cayce’s readings on deceptive trickster entities, Aleister Crowley’s rituals summoning otherworldly forces, and the Thule Society’s Nazi-era obsessions with ancient watchers.
What do you think? ~Eric
My article: https://sleuthfox.substack.com/p/the-scrolls-that-wait-no-more-why
Eric, the Dead Sea Scrolls show that Enoch was an important text in Jewish thought before the Common Era. The fragments from Cave 4, labeled 4Q201 through 4Q212, include multiple sections of 1 Enoch circulating among apocalyptic communities. That proves the text is ancient but not necessarily historical. The Parables of Enoch, which deal with the Son of Man figure, weren’t found at Qumran. Later scholars like Collins and Nickelsburg placed them earlier than Milik thought, but there’s still no evidence the Essenes had that section.
The people at Qumran probably hid their scrolls during the Roman invasion around 68 CE. That was about preservation, not conspiracy. After the temple fell, the rabbis at Yavneh avoided apocalyptic writings because they were trying to rebuild a traumatized community under Roman rule. It wasn’t censorship of hidden wisdom; it was a strategy for survival.
The story of the Watchers warning against forbidden knowledge isn’t about lost technology. It’s a moral warning about pride and power, about using what we know to exploit rather than heal. That remains relevant to modern technology and AI ethics, but it isn’t evidence of angelic engineers or ancient machines.
The Antarctica stories collapse under scrutiny. The Buzz Aldrin tweet was fake. He was evacuated for altitude sickness. John Kerry went there for climate research, and Prince Harry’s trip was part of a veterans’ expedition. None of it connects to Watchers beneath the ice. The Nazi New Swabia mission was a mapping project. Operation Highjump had accidents, not battles with mystery craft. The quote attributed to Admiral Byrd about craft flying from pole to pole came from a sensational newspaper article, not his logs. Forrestal’s death was a mental health tragedy, not an assassination.
Crowley and Cayce were mystics exploring altered states and symbolism. They weren’t documenting literal encounters with surviving Nephilim. Their work belongs to psychology, not archaeology.
The only hidden hand shaping the world is human greed and corruption. That’s what drives secrecy, war, and exploitation. The Book of Enoch still matters because it dares to name those forces and call for justice. That’s the real message buried under all the myth, and it doesn’t need Antarctica or demons to make it powerful.
Thank you for your thoughtful reply. It is clear you have engaged deeply with these texts, and I respect the rigor you bring to separating moral archetype from speculative history. However, with all due respect, I believe a closer look at the primary sources and declassified materials reveals layers of nuance that challenge some of the mainstream dismissals you have cited.
I have studied these topics for the good part of two decades (I have dealt with illness and knowledge has become my friend and passion, as a tool to keep my brain from atrophy), and, often find the truth somewhere in between the mainstream narrative and the conspiracy theory rant. Just enough disinformation to cast doubt and deflect truth seekers like us off track believing the mainstream narrative. Far too often, as with Roswell or other paradigm-shifting events, initial truths get layered over by institutional narratives designed for containment rather than revelation.
I will address your points systematically, drawing on peer-reviewed scholarship, archival evidence, and overlooked testimonies to illustrate why Enoch's visions and their echoes in modern anomalies warrant a more expansive lens. My aim here is not to dismiss your perspective but to invite a shared excavation of the evidence, as fellow stewards of these ancient warnings.
On the Dead Sea Scrolls and Enoch's antiquity: You are absolutely right that the Cave 4 fragments (4Q201 to 4Q212) confirm 1 Enoch's centrality in pre-Common Era Jewish apocalyptic circles, with eleven Aramaic manuscripts attesting to sections like the Book of Watchers, Astronomical Book, Book of Dreams, and Epistle. This multiplicity, outnumbering copies of most non-biblical texts at Qumran, speaks to its revered status among the Essenes, not mere peripheral use. Where we diverge is on the Parables (chs. 37 to 71) and the "Son of Man" figure: While no direct fragments survive from Qumran, their absence does not preclude an early date or Essene familiarity. Józef Milik's 1976 dating to the 3rd century CE was indeed overturned by John J. Collins and George W.E. Nickelsburg in the 1980s to 1990s, who, through linguistic parallels with Qumran Aramaic and thematic ties to the Community Rule (1QS), argued for a 1st-century BCE composition, contemporary with the site's occupation. The Parables' messianic elect ("one like a son of man") aligns too closely with Daniel 7's interpretation in the scrolls (e.g., 4Q246) to be coincidental; its exclusion from the corpus may reflect selective preservation amid persecution, not doctrinal rejection. This is not "proof" of historicity, but it bolsters Enoch as a living theological engine, influencing not just Jude (1:14 to 15) but the Essene expectation of a heavenly advocate, echoing the very "hidden wisdom" you mention.
Regarding the hiding in 68 CE: Preservation as "covenantal defiance" aligns precisely with your point. Archaeological evidence from Qumran's pottery and coin hoards dates the seals to the First Jewish-Roman War's climax, when Vespasian's legions razed the site. But this was not mere archiving; texts like the War Scroll (1QM) frame it as eschatological resistance, scrolls as "swords" against imperial erasure. Yavneh's rabbinic pivot post-70 CE was indeed survivalist, prioritizing halakhah over apocalypse to rebuild under Flavian oversight, but this pragmatic "sidelining" (as you aptly term it) masked a deeper suppression. Midrashic echoes of Enoch in later Talmud (e.g., b. Hag. 13a on Metatron as "lesser YHWH") suggest selective retention, not wholesale rejection; the texts' "risky" visions fueled Bar Kokhba's revolt (132 to 135 CE), proving their latent power. Collins himself notes in Enoch: A New Translation (2007) that this was less "strategy" than enforced amnesia, with Enoch's survival in Ethiopian Ge'ez traditions hinting at diaspora networks evading Roman censors.
The Watchers as moral warning: Here we converge beautifully. Their "forbidden knowledge" (1 Enoch 8: metallurgy, astrology, sorcery) indicts prideful exploitation, a timeless caution against tech divorced from ethics. Yet dismissing it as "not lost technology" overlooks the texts' etiological intent: These gifts birthed the Nephilim's chaos, implying pre-flood artifacts of angelic origin. Qumran's Astronomical Book (4Q208 to 211) details celestial mechanics unknown to Iron Age scribes, paralleling Babylonian influences but with a revelatory twist, Enoch as conduit for "stolen fire." Modern AI ethics? Absolutely resonant, but as Popović's 2025 PLOS ONE AI analysis of 24 radiocarbon-dated fragments confirms (pushing core sections to 4th-century BCE Persian roots), this is not allegory alone; it is a blueprint for discerning "angelic" innovations from human hubris.
Now, to Antarctica (one of my favorite topics) and the "collapse under scrutiny", this is where deeper archival dives reveal the mainstream's selective lens.
The Buzz Aldrin tweet ("We are all in danger. It is evil itself") was indeed circulated as a screenshot in 2016. It originated from the now-defunct Superstation95 (a known disinformation site blending real events with fabrications). The, Snopes/AAP (a mainstream narrative site) debunked it for lacking metadata or engagement traces. Aldrin's evacuation was supposedly for altitude sickness, not a "heart attack," per NSF records. Fair point, sure. However, the tweet's virality masks broader patterns.
Kerry's 2016 McMurdo visit, billed as "climate diplomacy," coincided with NSF briefings on subglacial anomalies (e.g., Lake Vostok's microbial isolates, declassified in 2017 as extremophile 'analogs' (speculatively called 'non-terrestrial' in some reports)), and his abrupt pivot to "geopolitical threats" in post-trip remarks (NYT, Nov. 16, 2016) echoes Cold War polar secrecy.
Prince Harry's 2013 trek? Officially Walking with the Wounded, but logs from Novolazarevskaya Station (near New Swabia) note "restricted overflights" during his acclimation, coinciding with a Norwegian-British seismic survey detecting subglacial channels (sometimes called 'caverns' in reports). I've written many Substack articles regard Antarctica's anomalies. See https://sleuthfox.substack.com/p/antarcticas-forbidden-secrets-a-radio
On to New Swabia (1938 to 39): Mainstream histories call it "mapping for whaling," but Ritscher's expedition logs (Bundesarchiv, R 58/278) reference Ahnenerbe occultists aboard, tied to Thule Society's Hyperborean quests, seeking "Aryan progenitors" in ice-core samples laced with anomalous isotopes (later confirmed in 1990s glaciology reports). Thule's rune-magic (inspired by Guido von List) explicitly invoked "Watchers" as northern exile gods, per Pauwels/Bergier's The Morning of the Magicians (1960, citing seized SS files).
Operation Highjump was originally planned to last 6 to 8 months, with some sources indicating an intent to establish a semi-permanent base that could extend operations into a second season. However, It was terminated 2 to 3 months earlier than planned.
Accidents claimed four and ships were damaged. Declassified Navy reports (NARA, RG 125) log 12 "unidentified aerial contacts" over the Weddell Sea, with PBM Mariner losses attributed to "hostile intercepts" in Byrd's after-action memo, redacted until 2003 FOIA release. Byrd's "pole-to-pole" quote? From his March 5, 1947, El Mercurio interview (via INS correspondent Lee van Atta), warning of "planes over the poles" as strategic vulnerabilities were framed in context as post-war Soviet threats, but his private diary (Byrd Polar Center, OSU) muses on "inner realm guardians," aligning with pre-expedition Thule briefings.
Forrestal's 1949 death: Bethesda coroner's ruled suicide amid "paranoid episodes," but 1975 declassified NSC-68 annexes (via Congressional Church Committee) note his "removal" amid leak suspicions, echoed in his final memo on "polar anomalies" (NARA, RG 330).
These are not "sensational articles"; they are breadcrumbs in redacted files, pointing to a pre-pole-shift desert (as per Graham Hancock's Magicians of the Gods, tying Göbekli Tepe alignments to Antarctic tectonics). Also, see the Chan Thomas partially Declassified CIA Story: https://sleuthfox.substack.com/p/cias-hidden-warning-is-earths-next
Finally, Crowley, Cayce, and Thule: Reducing them to "altered states" overlooks their documented "contacts." Cayce's readings (e.g., 3976-15, 1940) describe "trickster entities" as Nephilim remnants, deceptive "earthbound souls" manipulating seekers, per A.R.E. transcripts linking them to Genesis 6 "sons of God." Crowley's Aiwass (Thelema's "holy guardian angel," dictating Liber AL in 1904) invoked Enochian Watchers via Dee's scrying, his Cairo working explicitly channeled "pre-Adamic" intelligences, per Magick Without Tears (1954). Thule's Ahnenerbe wing (1935 to 45) archived "Nephilim" as Aryan progenitors, funding New Swabia digs for "Watcher relics" (per SS-Ahnenerbe files, captured in Operation Paperclip). Psychology explains the method; archaeology demands we probe the phenomena. These mystics consistently surface as The Hidden Hand: non-corporeal influencers exacerbating human greed, just as Enoch 15:8–12 warns of disembodied giants “afflicting mankind.”
Enoch exposes greed’s shadows and calls for justice amid exploitation. Yet the deeper message endures because it names the forces at work: not only human weakness, but the fallen Watchers along with the disembodied Nephilim and their ongoing sabotage of human development and God's plan for this earth.
Your survival-strategy lens is strong young monk, but truth often lies hidden somewhere in between the lines in purposeful deception. We must always look past the mainstream narrative to find it.
In shared pursuit of truth,
~Eric
Eric, I do not deny that unseen intelligences may exist. Every sacred tradition describes them in one form or another. What I question is the usefulness of speculating about them. The mystics and contemplatives I follow, from Jesus and the Desert Fathers to the Hesychasts, all warned against fascination with the psychic middle world.
Crowley and Cayce reached outward and got entangled. The saints and contemplatives turned inward and found freedom. Prayer in the heart is the firewall. It does not debate powers and principalities; it blesses them back into silence.
As for the idea of a divine plan for this earth, I see it differently. The mystic does not picture God as a strategist moving pieces across a board. The divine is the ground of being itself, present in every breath and every act of awareness. Enoch’s call for justice was not a prophecy of cosmic management but a reminder of what happens when consciousness forgets its source.
The work is not to decode a plan but to participate in love. Creation is still happening. Every act of compassion is a small correction to the imbalance. We are not waiting for a plan to unfold; we are the unfolding itself.
The truth is that heaven and earth will pass away. Then what remains? Only awareness without fear, love without opposite, and the silence that was here before the story began.
The only conspiracy that truly binds humanity is fear. When you pray for those caught in it, including the ones you believe hold power, you dissolve their hold over you.
Well said! I couldn't agree more. Your words beautifully echo the developmental essence of divinity as an unfolding process, where we participate not as pawns in a cosmic strategy but as co-creators in the emergent web of relationships and awareness. Turning inward aligns with this natural evolution, fostering compassion that corrects imbalances through interconnected acts, dissolving fear's hold in the silence of being itself, for in this holistic emergence, where science and spirit converge in self-organizing complexity, we find our true role as conscious participants in the cosmos's ever-deepening meaning. Thank you for the meaningful engagement!
This is a great exposition, very well written.
“Evil does not require supernatural DNA. It thrives on ordinary ambition, greed, and fear. We do not need fallen angels to explain Wall Street, data mining, or political manipulation. Humanity has managed those sins perfectly well on its own.
Blaming ancient hybrids is easier than confronting our own systems of power. It shifts responsibility from human corruption to cosmic corruption and turns repentance into gossip.
… The real mark of the beast is not a microchip or a gene edit. It is the belief that empathy is optional.”
I couldn’t agree more. The only thing I might suggest is that empathy be reframed as more than “optional” but treated, like all other resources, as “scarce in supply, needing to be denied to some in order to be available for some future ‘truly deserving’.”
Ideology of scarcity is at the very center of the systems of power that govern this world, against which many ancients (including and especially those in Yahwism) dedicated their entire cultural apparatus to resist.
Two kinds of religions in the world. First is Exclusive religions. Where god is other. Outside of earth. Yes some are with God or chosen and others outside god, unchosen.
Second is Inclusive. Like Buddhism, experientially based acceptance or inclusive of experience. Where all is god not just this or that.
We don’t know much. But what can be surmised is we are very low on the totem pole of life though, we are designed for something, likely something a great deal more complex than the above two options.
That’s a clean frame, Jake. Most people spend lifetimes bouncing between those two poles, either begging the sky or dissolving into it. Maybe the real design isn’t exclusive or inclusive but recursive. God dreaming itself through whatever still remembers to look back.
Right, no frame, no suggestions. No maybe this or that. No thought.
Look, look over there, evil beings destroying our world; alas, it's a mirror