Charlie Kirk wasn’t flipping overnight, but the cracks were there: Epstein files, Gaza’s church bombings, doubts about conservatism’s failures. For a movement addicted to purity, even a wobble can look like betrayal.
I hadn’t heard of Kirk before he was killed, but following the info you laid out, your unsaid guess on this is legitimate.
Following through with this underworld regime that is in place, if Kirk’s killer really was this young guy, who’s in custody, it is sad. However, there’s a wealth of evidence that says Robinson didn’t do it and was serving only as a patsy. The same evidence showed up when there was that fake assassination attempt on Trump. It’s possible that covert “insiders” were responsible for both incidents. And, if so, how were the patsies recruited, knowing they probably would die? All of these dark events connected to Trump play out like mob dramas, and it’s downright scary.
Scary and sad on so many levels. I have never heard of Kirk either. Hard to figure how Robinson got tied into this whole mess if he didn’t do it. Butler PA incident did not ever add up either.
And I go back to the professional hit that killed him. That intricate shot required the skills of a seasoned, expert sniper. Not a 22-year-old Utah kid. Professional snipers are expensive. As always, follow the money.
Thank you so much, VMB, for your very different take on this Charlie Kirk business. I’d never heard of him before his tragic death. Nearly all of my extended family are Trump voters, and were devastated when Kirk was killed. I found it to be dangerous to engage in any discussion with them. I watched a Kirk debate in Cambridge. First noticed how very fast he talked. Almost faster than I could listen. Brought to mind the “Baffle them with bullshit” saying; probably because I prefer just calm regular talking. Students seemed to be eager to debate him though. Thanks again my friend.
From Newsweek, Oct 2023 — about the Saint Porphyrius Orthodox church bombing in Gaza:
“Until now I’ve refrained from tweeting about the damage done to the 12th-century Greek Orthodox church of St Porphyrius in Gaza … But it now seems confirmed that Israel did actually bomb a building adjacent to the church, killing Christians who were sheltering there …”“Frankly, it’s wrong that there was substantially more outrage when Gaza’s own militants shot their own rocket at their own hospital parking lot, than when Christians died sheltering in the oldest church in Gaza.
From Axios (July 2025) — on Epstein:
“Charlie Kirk talks Epstein, urges Trump administration to act…”
He “urged the Trump administration to fix the Epstein mess by disclosing more information.”
I just know he was pro Isreal and then he wasn't and then he got the jelly knocked off his biscuit. Seems to be a solid pattern with these guys, no?
“The jelly knocked off his biscuit” lol That’s one I’d never heard before!
And demanding the Epstein files: kiss of death🤔figuratively speaking of course.
I hadn’t heard of Kirk before he was killed, but following the info you laid out, your unsaid guess on this is legitimate.
Following through with this underworld regime that is in place, if Kirk’s killer really was this young guy, who’s in custody, it is sad. However, there’s a wealth of evidence that says Robinson didn’t do it and was serving only as a patsy. The same evidence showed up when there was that fake assassination attempt on Trump. It’s possible that covert “insiders” were responsible for both incidents. And, if so, how were the patsies recruited, knowing they probably would die? All of these dark events connected to Trump play out like mob dramas, and it’s downright scary.
Scary and sad on so many levels. I have never heard of Kirk either. Hard to figure how Robinson got tied into this whole mess if he didn’t do it. Butler PA incident did not ever add up either.
And I go back to the professional hit that killed him. That intricate shot required the skills of a seasoned, expert sniper. Not a 22-year-old Utah kid. Professional snipers are expensive. As always, follow the money.
Agreed
He publicly and loudly advocated for releasing the Epstein files. What else was he saying in private?????
Enter Mossad.
So Charlie was killed by someone inside the WH who didn’t want the files released??
So if Kirk was starting to speak out regarding Epstein Files and the bombing of a
church in Gaza, why would a kid who was tired of Kirk’s hateful rhetoric want to go after Kirk? Don’t get it.
I don't think a kid made that 200 yard shot
Thank you so much, VMB, for your very different take on this Charlie Kirk business. I’d never heard of him before his tragic death. Nearly all of my extended family are Trump voters, and were devastated when Kirk was killed. I found it to be dangerous to engage in any discussion with them. I watched a Kirk debate in Cambridge. First noticed how very fast he talked. Almost faster than I could listen. Brought to mind the “Baffle them with bullshit” saying; probably because I prefer just calm regular talking. Students seemed to be eager to debate him though. Thanks again my friend.
Well written!
What ru saying? Do you think this was MAGA
undoing?
Have not been keeping up on this entirely. What did he say that showed misgivings?
From Newsweek, Oct 2023 — about the Saint Porphyrius Orthodox church bombing in Gaza:
“Until now I’ve refrained from tweeting about the damage done to the 12th-century Greek Orthodox church of St Porphyrius in Gaza … But it now seems confirmed that Israel did actually bomb a building adjacent to the church, killing Christians who were sheltering there …”“Frankly, it’s wrong that there was substantially more outrage when Gaza’s own militants shot their own rocket at their own hospital parking lot, than when Christians died sheltering in the oldest church in Gaza.
From Axios (July 2025) — on Epstein:
“Charlie Kirk talks Epstein, urges Trump administration to act…”
He “urged the Trump administration to fix the Epstein mess by disclosing more information.”
Oh, wow. 😳 Thanks for looking at this while I’ve needed to take a breather…
Definitely. He was also demanding the Epstein files.