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Frisco Wolf's avatar

I'm not even a Christian, but I suspect I may have been a Cathar in a past life. Listening to this chant while doing conscious breathing really transports me to an altered state. https://youtu.be/ED4AYD2gZ7k?si=XYedPnpSrSdpbmju

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Virgin Monk Boy's avatar

That makes perfect sense. The Cathars never cared much about labels anyway, only the light beneath them. Chants like that doesn’t just echo through stone halls, it remembers who we were before the burning started.

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Elizabeth's avatar

This is all so true. "Heretics" are some of my favorite friends. I owe them a lot.

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Virgin Monk Boy's avatar

Same here. The heretics are usually just the ones who kept listening after the sermon ended. They remind the rest of us that love evolves faster than dogma. Blessed be the ones brave enough to keep asking sacred questions.

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Neriya & Yeshua's avatar

Awww, I feel like a heretic for years. Now I feel like I’m finally finding others like me here. Hallelujah I’m no longer alone!

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Kaja Sommer's avatar

☮️Peace & nonviolence are so radical in our violent world. My dad taught me a Quaker mindset — nonviolence, simplicity, equality — & my mom was a pacifist, against the Vietnam War & organized religion. I learned early that empire & church don’t always take care of people — then peace & love become heretics! Heretics UNITE!😎

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Dawn Elaine Bowie's avatar

You gotta let folks find their own way. Find yours, live in it, drown in it, learn to breathe underwater, pray for others and trust Spirit to do the converting they need. Your job, just love them all.

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Virgin Monk Boy's avatar

That’s a beautiful sentiment, and I mean that. But the Church has too often preached love while weaponizing fear. If there is such a thing as Satan, he probably took notes from the institution that learned to control souls through guilt.

Love still wins, but not because the Church taught it. It wins because truth outlives propaganda.

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Dawn Elaine Bowie's avatar

Church doesn’t necessarily mean institution. There’s a grab bag of helpful and unhelpful in institutions - the older the more unhelpful, I fear. But as for me, I choose to stay on the edge of the inside, use what worked adapted for now as far as I can and not worry whether “they’re doing it wrong.” Hold onto the good and try to outlive the unhelpful. It’s everywhere. Every time a group of people gathers around a primary purpose, it’s bound to happen. That fact doesn’t diminish the primary purpose, but sadly, it can obscure it. So I just try to live in my one little life and allow Spirit to grow me.

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Neriya & Yeshua's avatar

”Mystics are mocked.” Let’s change that! Wanna come onto my podcast and talk about it?! 🕊️🌹

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