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Beth Ann Kepple's avatar

I knew none of this. Blows my mind. Both that none of this was ever taught in the church I grew up in (yes, we had some “special” series of Sunday School classes but never went into this, no West/East differences every brought up - it was just Jesus died for our sins, be good so you won’t burn in hell with all the other heathen people who don’t believe in him). All i know about Charlemagne is the Steely Dan song I love so much

My the things i learn from you 🤯

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Benjamin Curtis's avatar

Whilst I agree with much of what you've said here, I would query your characterisation of Augustine, which is a commonly held one in Orthodox circles. Augustine isn't nearly as legalistic and guilt-obsessed as some make him out, and he was named as a universal teacher by two Ecumenical Councils. In my opinion, he follows the neo-platonist theology of the Cappadocian Fathers pretty closely, even in his Triadology, although of course he made significant errors in areas of grace and predestination. Most of the damage was done by later Western theologians who interpreted what he said through later Western developments you have outlined here!

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